Analysis and conclusions

«WILL WE ABANDONE OUR FAMILY TO GO TO WAR?

WILL WE SEND OUR CHILDREN TO WAR?»

In the present context it seems that we have "accustomed" to normalize the wars, those places where people kill and die, you go hungry, women and girls are raped, as something distant that is seen from TV while we eat or with more intense and outrageous morbid, but ephemeral, in the form of videos through social networks (more or less manipulated or censored).

On the other hand in the state of Spain the age of "reserve" military for all sexes is among the 18 and the 45 years.

This is without prejudice to the fact that the age ranges may be expanded due to the need for "exhaustion of reserves.".

Luckily there are still many people very sensitized to the injustices and suffering of peoples, Even if they are far in distance.

Valuing with frustration that assistance to mass demonstrations or international commercial boycott campaigns [suppliers of the belligerent or directly causative and collaborationist states] In our "peace" territories they could not influence the end of countless blood wars: Apart from Ukraine and Gaza, those of the Sahel, Congo, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Yemen, Kurdistan, Rohinyas, Afghanistan, Armenia ... The Assemblies of the Trade Unions of the Regional Federation of the Oriental Vallès agreed to promote the awareness of the population in the face of a potential war with intervention from the Spanish State, with the aim of achieving a state of preventive awareness that could deter for himself Any warmonger of the governments on duty.

The proposal included an emotional awareness text in the face of the impact of wars and the development of the unknown and dangerous legal regulations of the Spanish State in this regard.

Also some questionnaires [For various age groups] To collect information, Reflections, Citizens' criteria in this regard and new action initiatives that contribute youthful waters to fight strategies that seem to give symptoms of exhaustion or to which the powers seem immunized. Subsequently the information would be analyzed to generate new proposals for the organization of the people, social and cultural mechanisms against militarism.

Direct link to the text and questionnaires on the website of the Vallès Oriental Regional Federation:

https://cgtcatalunya.cat/cgtvallesoriental/mandaremos-nuestros-hijos-a-la-guerra/

The day 13 December of 2024 A circular was sent both to the Secretariat of Communication of the Permanent Secretariat of the Confederal Committee of Catalonia and the Secretariat of Communication of the Permanent Secretariat of the Confederal Committee of the CGT requesting that the request for collaboration with all the CGT unions be shared as well as that they made the maximum public dissemination from the Confederal organs. That is why the work was done in Spanish and not in Catalan. We did not get an answer or conducted what had been requested.

The dissemination asking for collaboration we had to do by our own means, much more limited. Consequently the scope of the study and the conclusions are significantly more modest.

On the other hand we greatly thank people who have dedicated their time and effort in reflections that were not always, I love, easy.

 

ANALYSIS:

C- PERSONAS [MINORS] OUT OF THE MILITARY “RESERVE” AGE: [Children 18 years]

No adult has considered appropriate to send the corresponding questionnaire to their descendants. Some teachers raised the possibility of getting to students, But the atmosphere social and institutional "advised him" for Avoid withfLiches within the educational community.

A- PEOPLE OF “MILITARY AGE”.

[In the Spanish state the age of military "reserve" for all sexes is among the 18 and the 45 years]

No significantly different responses have been received by the sex variable.

Before the question about itself The wars They can be A good personal opportunity to dosE rico or rich manufacturing weapons and selling them abroad, creating a great export business to states at war, A “reconstruction of devastated areas, or a banking business to make loans necessary for reconstruction ”, The generalized response is a very hard moral criticism of fierce competition to enrichment by large capitalist corporations at the expense of creating the suffering and death of people.

A 60% Of the people they claimed to ignore Spanish legality in relation to military cams and their implications.

In relation to the degree of affectation that we feel at the existence of "distant wars", We collect some of the most representative testimonies [sic]:

“I am part of the working class, And the working class is something that exists throughout the world. Any attack on the working class, anywhere in the world, It is an attack on me. Thus, I consider that it affects me at all levels (materially, emotionally, ethically, etc). I consider that as a working class we are able to end all wars, Since we are the ones who work, We have power over the production of weapons and about the cultural production that justifies war.

It affects me emotionally, But I don't know how I can act on a personal level to avoid them, Beyond manifesting me against.

We can act as part of antimilitarist platforms and groups and for peace. Participating in the mobilizations that are convened (that although they go unnoticed, There are many). Promoting the culture of peace in our close environment.

Directly why you want or not that a country is at war is distant or not, Today the merchandise to supply us arrive from all over the world and is there where the prices of some food, Young people have the risk of claiming us for war…

All of the above, EARTIALLY, I'm afraid of possible wars that can occur near or in our country. We can prevent them by doing peace campaigns, awareness of the population.

Why, What you don't want for you, Don't want it for others.

It gives me much sadness to think that there is no ethics in governments . Most people do not reflect on the subject and think we can't do anything.

EARTIALLY. We should mobilize in the streets and a frontal opposition to imperialist wars. In my day to day, I only act by considering my environment that they can take us to the slaughterhouse, The, at least impose even more cuts to pay this increase in spending that the USAs ask for.

As the text says, I educate my children, To my students, With the example, Not shutting up in situations of social life, etc; I adhere to campaigns, Difundo the idea of the thought of peace, not to tolerate suffering, especially Gaza's genocide. I don't think the fear of possible (and real) Call to wield weapons serves to create social movement. I think that slogans that peel in the subconscious can be more incisive in the long run: “And if there was a war and nobody went to her?” O “In war only the one who sells weapons wins” O “Eye by eye and we would all end up blind”, “Don't do what you wouldn't like meuE made you”, etc“.

All people state that as a society we have "normalized the" distant wars "because we think they do not affect us, that we have come in some ways to "dehumanize" the victims that appear in the news, We have internalized a certain implicit racism towards "the other". Also that after the long working days, mostly people seek leisure to alienate and avoid considering negative thoughts or that can generate frustration, Like injustices. Or simply because his priority is to reach "end of the month".

All answers agree that the most favored social groups by wars are the rich and the most affected, the poor.

Before the hypothetical possibility that the Spanish State made military cams for "distant" conflicts:

To the question about how would they feel when I know being recruites on a military cam The answers are bleeding, also for being repeated: "Impact, terrified, rabia, I can't even imagine it, betrayed by the State ».

They manifest in a majority way that the affectation to their lives of a cams call would be a true tragedy for both their personal and family lives, that would be "completely destroyed".

Given this situation, an important bulk of the answers opt for the flight of the State, others manifest defenselessness by overwhelming. Other opposition, No acceptance, conscientious objection (without defining how). A concrete minority mobilizations in the streets and labor boycott of military production.

Absolutely all answers agree that the generalization of states of opinion and pacifist and antimilitarist social actions in all lands on the planet can be an important factor of wars prevention, inhibiting the powerful of the states to participate in them against the firmly consolidated criteria among citizens. Some of the most significant majority responses are literally attached [sic].

“Yes it can be an important factor. Politicians are populists, And they act according to what they think they will give them more votes and will allow them to stay in power for a longer time. Therefore they will not participate in wars if they believe they can harm them. But I consider that an even more useful tool to prevent wars is to boycott the production of armament from the jobs. The most important tool for preventing wars is directly to stop weapons production.

“On the one hand, It would favor the decrease in the number of people willing to voluntarily enlist in the Army. On the other, The decision to participate in wars would have more negative consequences for political parties in electoral results, So perhaps they would be more reluctant to make the decision to participate in them.

Because a movement by much of people exert pressure, And with that is what results are obtained.

Because it helps create a non-belic environment, of understanding, generating empathy by other countries, respecting the resources of the planet and saving generalized misfortunes that do not lead anywhere.

To give more visibility on the subject to many people who have a section or are not aware.

It is necessary to raise the degree of awareness of what interests the imperialist wars serve. It would be different to make war and defend your country, as in the 2nd Republic.

Yes because throughout history, The more generalized a less primary thought system, more cultured and educated, With more knowledge, Less reactive and more reflective, less wars or with less human involvement there are (General image). I would also have responded that no, Because in the last twenty years it is generalizing (globalizing) The culture of inculture: Simplistic thinking is more popular, even in the medium and high social layers that the polyhedral, since it is a safe and easy path, silenceing moral conflicts, acting accordingly. Formerly society clung to faith, Currently to comfort (or self -convent)”.

As concrete proposals (In the line of the most repeated) To promote the common feeling of antimilitarist and pacifist socialization, the following have highlighted: [sic]

“The most important thing is to disseminate class consciousness and internationalist consciousness. Destroy the myth of competition and build the idea of mutual support. And actively speak of antimilitarism, of ways to act against wars, etc, so that these ideas penetrate in the collective imaginary and the antimilitarist feeling is general, as it happened during the Vietnam War.

An important link is to relate pacifism and antimilitarism with ecologism and eco -fascism. Mainly for youth it is an interesting topic.

Alerting people with posters, news, messages on social networks to understand and find out what could happen.

Introducing the issue of peace either in schools and/or public organizations, Not turning your back on oppressed victims resulting from a war. Also, Talking to our children once they are age to understand and make them see that wars do not lead anywhere, And that we have to show our rejection in demonstrations mode, demonstrations, written with the entities of our environment (municipalities, Schools, etc) To stop barbarism without silencing or normalizing it, What is happening in recent times.

Education to create a base and work the values (Schools, institute, universities). Manifestations that have an impact on the press. Importance of social networks to reach more people and create a collective conscience.

With mobilizations. In schools, above all, making known the background reason for wars, that does not reflect on it or ESO ...

Showing how it is easy and cheap to live and let live (In the current terms of thought). If you have to hate, Let it be things, NO TO PEOPLE. Repeating slogans, generating simple and current audiovisual digital content for living in peace. Giving the solution to conflicts: The consensus, or at least, The agreement. It seems stupid, But I think, Seeing the level of society, That would be so. A fashion, maybe, But something would remain. I would love to say that educating in critical thinking, emancipated and libertarian, Based on science and ecology, Wasing culture and art, love in a broad sense…. But to start, I see more plausible to make it mass ”.

No person who has participated in the study would voluntarily kill working people who do not know and have nothing against him.

The arguments contributed are that all working people are our sisters, are where they are. It makes no sense or benefits us as a social class. It is not ethical and is inhuman. They have the right to life. The inability to kill someone.

A minority manifests a brutal opposition to imperialist wars, justifying social or defense wars against authoritarianism or fascism [Analogy with the II Spanish Republic].

All people affirm in case of an alleged legal obligation would not go to kill workers who do not known And it doesn't haven Personally nothing against him. They argue that laws are not above ethics or values. It is not lawful to force to kill. Not a few answers would assume prison sentences in coherence with their conscience.

None of the answers would allow their children to go to a war. Some samples:

“In the same way I would not, Nor would it let anyone else be to kill innocent workers (…) would be putting the life of a loved one at risk (…) Why would I not send my children as a bait of the upper class and powerful people ”.

The most significant answers to the question, how would you act in this regard? (of the previous situations raised) have been: [sic]

“Would make conscientious objection, I would mobilize in the streets against war, and would organize a mutual support network for retaliated persons for making conscientious objection.

I would flee or help fleeing (In case of loved ones). Because I am not willing to kill or put my life in danger for others to get economic or political benefit.

Opposing me the required services, since I am in my total right not to want to kill innocent people who are totally the same as me.

Hiding, If possible, If they don't understand a resounding.

Positioning me against killing people, Because it's a murder.

I wouldn't go

Would migrate, As it was. Because I would not survive, emotionally and mentally sure that, And organically with a very high probability. In such a limit situation, Survival acts, The instinct, Not principles or beliefs ".

To the question: What reasons do you think they can justify going to kill [And to die, Of course] working people tos that you do not know and you have nothing personally against him, On behalf of "Our State, The homeland, The honor, Our powerful "? The answer has been unison: No reason.

The assessment dThe Spanish constitutional and legal system in relation to the restriction of fundamental rights and freedoms in situations of alarm states, Exception, Place (Guerra) and imposition of military jurisdiction Among the participants It is very negative unjust, Little ethical, Do not respect the right to objection of citizenship awareness, authoritarian, democratic; [sic] “No law or constitution can force me to kill innocent working people ”.

Other outstanding contributions: [sic]

“When you think that as a society we will eradicate wars? There is a health system that eradicates diseases, why not, A system that eradicates wars?

Do not forget that this requirement to increase military and climbing of war standardization at the media level is due to the fact that they are the requirements of the US, And we as a vassal country (The same the EU as a whole) We are required to comply. They are the relations of the Empire. This fact cannot be erased, since not, We will not understand anything. We receive this aggressiveness since the US is managing its decline, and given the level at which it is, You can no longer do it otherwise but aggressively. There are several authors who explain it ".

B- PERSONAS [ADULTS] OUT OF THE MILITARY “RESERVE” AGE: [Older of 45 years].

No significantly different responses have been received by the sex variable.

Before the question about itself The wars They can be A good personal opportunity to dosE rico or rich manufacturing weapons and selling them abroad, creating a great export business to states at war, A “reconstruction of devastated areas, or a banking business to make loans necessary for reconstruction”, The resounding answer is no.

ANDIt is technically considered abominateble. Only working classes suffer. A tough criticism of the large multinational companies that see in them true opportunities are collected at the price of balance of foreign land resources, reduce stocks of armament and "reconstruction opportunities" of the destroyed.

Approximately half of the persons said they ignore Spanish legality in relation to military cams and their implications.

En Relationship to the degree of affectation we feel before The existence of "distant wars", We collect some of the testimonies provided more repeated [sic]:

«Morally much since they are not far away and are being promoted with my taxes and hindered also because I have 3 children and my older parents and I would not like them to live this situation more closely, They do not deserve it.

It affects me ethically, But since the media stop talking quickly, It seems as if they no longer existed.

It does affect me in mind and morally and my performance is poor (some manifestation) I wish it served for something but I'm afraid that the power to stop a war is not in our hands.

They are destroyed by “I approach” to those “distant wars”, I try to be pending, I look for information to see if they already end, and with it the suffering of the peoples, I have them very present. Morally they destroy me because I am not able to understand what kind of gen. “That third” that causes war always based on lies, either “For peace”, “For the progress of a town”, “For democracy”, For so many lies that does not allow us the truth of war: The big weapons business, seize resources, to the bag, That great unknown of the popular classes, It benefits… How do I act? With the word. I try to transmit, Who wants me to hear (that does not usually happen), The deception, The lie that hides the war. What can or can we do? And this is where I grab the utopia… In my day to day, I try not to collaborate, to the extent that I can and know, With those entities that promote war, either trademarks, banks, media… Let's continue with utopia: there in the S. XVII A writer wrote “the calamity of the times when the crazy guides the blind”, Or something like that. If those blind, They are the ones who trigger the weapons, Open their eyes and knew the truth of wars, Maybe they wouldn't even take them. Unless when you open your eyes they become useful fools… I don't know.

It causes me indignation, pena, a certain discomfort but accepting with the “argument” that wars have existed throughout the known history of humanity. Individually I can contribute my attitude and disposition to speak, Expose ideas in conversations of nearby people. Participate in demonstrations.

Ethics morally.

It affects me emotionally and morally because of the deaths of innocent working people who have not decided that situation. Acting attending demonstrations against wars.

It affects me in every way, namely, EARTIALLY, morally, ethically, economically, etc. In fact every Saturday of the week we move to support the demonstrations called against the wars and the genocide suffered by the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel.

With outrage. Unfortunately I do not act.

Very little, EARTIALLY; In our time moral speeches are harmless.

Essentially the existence of injustices and atrocities, live them directly or not, Coarta mi (our) Right to reach full real happiness (No self -deception).

It affects me to see how Israel Machaca systematically for example to Palestine, You can help in manifestations, sending humanitarian aid that will not arrive or what they want will arrive. Try to press the states that do not continue in that genocidal line ».

All people manifestsSo like society we have "normalized the distant wars" why We consider ourselves without power to avoid them and we delegate them in politicians. We look at the news while we have dinner or eat and then continue the same with our life. We think that it does not directly affect us "it is a thing of others", Something of the "Third World".

In a recurring way, the self -criticism appears that only a population minority against wars is mobilized and this makes it not a real counterweight against the corporations and states of the promotes. Also to narcissistic values, hedonists and adanists who permeate capitalist global societies.

All answers agree that the most favored social groups by wars are the rich and the most affected, the poor.

Before the hypothetical possibility that the Spanish State made military cams for "distant" conflicts:

To the question about how they would feel if they recruited a very dear being in a military cam the most repeated responses are hard: "Impact, Impotent, helpless ... terrified, I would die in life, ira, fear, frustration in the absence of the people's ability to organize and oppose ».

They manifest in a majority man [sic].

Faced with this situation The vast majority of the answers opt for Help their loved ones to exile. A concrete minority activate opposition and direct confrontation against powers. Appear, In a few contributions, Prior assess the opinion of the affected person.

Three quarters of the responses agree that the generalization of opinion states and pacifist and antimilitarist social actions in all lands on the planet can be an important factor in wars, inhibiting the powerful of the states to participate in them against the firmly consolidated criteria among citizens. The remaining quarter states that no. Some of the most significant majority responses are literally attached [sic].

«For the government to be clear that citizens do not agree to participate in the war.

It is a form of awareness.

We don't have that power, For many protests that are made the powerful.

Reason pacifist discourse is important, No Belicist, that incites people to create their own criteria, To think, To unmask the lie of war.

It is basic to occupy that space in favor of these opinions to counteract precisely so many belligerents.

Because we need an organized and structure collective to be able to add our forces and go against the war, awareness of those who make these decisions that war only power more hate, More angry, despair and that does not solve absolutely nothing. Only thousands of human lives are lost.

I like to think about it.

Because society is increasingly individualistic and is intoxicated in an irreparable degree

Political and economic classes (some by dependence on continuing in power, The others for sensitivity to its economic benefits) They do not move stitchless. A great opposition to certain measures (General strikes, Company occupation) would inhibit certain decisions they currently make with impunity (for the absence of a collective consciousness and action, precisely).

They have never taken into account the people. Or capitalism defeats in some way or there is nothing to do.

It is the way wars do not exist »

The following specific proposals have been highlighted (In the line of the most repeated) To promote the common feeling of antimilitarist and pacifist socialization: [sic]

“Disseminating the information of your article, So we see what the laws would be easy for the government so that participation in war is encouraged. Showing the effects of a war. Informing in schools and municipalities. With concentrations and manifestations and associations. Don't know (…) No idea”.

Disseminate speech. On an individual level on a day -to -day basis, being consistent with your words and your facts. At collective level, being coherent too and spreading through networks, posters, etc.

Valid referents should be enhanced (men, admired women, With cultural weight, artistic, deportivo…) For different generations and culture.

Raise awareness, wipe, convince, fight against governments and the media.

Manifesting and doing assemblies to discuss wars destroy the lives of working class people.

To evidence on the street the horrors and destruction of the war. I think only actions that make people put on the skin of what they suffer are usually effective.

Of none, In case of problems, individual feeling will prevail.

Education (In the sense of cultural background) in the day to day, sensitizing, explicitly disregarding abuses in relationships between people. “Imposing” Real consciousness (Non -self -help) of collective empathy and reciprocity. Social responsibility. And why not, Publicly pointing where entrepreneurs live, politicians, Police… as well as their families. Propaganda for direct act and action (They don't have to imply violence). Destroying a germ before it reproduces is an act of justice (And perhaps of selfish evil look the other way for selfish comfort).

That the working class did not participate in the elaboration of weapons (Without us or anything)».

No person who has participated in the study would voluntarily go to kill workers who do not know and have nothing personally against them.

The arguments overwhelmingly provided son “Obviousness " (ethics) of the moral inability to kill absolutely no one.

None of the answers would allow their children to go to a war. Some samples and nuances:

“I don't want my children to be traumatized monsters by a war, If I can avoid it (…) It is immoral (…) No, That does not mean that I could do it, I would not have a way to prevent it. (…) It would not be necessary to prevent it. (…) I would not do it because he has suckled him in his education and training. (…) I would try to convince him, But in the end it would be a decision of yours (…) I would tell them that these people have not chosen to die for other people”.

The most significant answers to the question, how would you act in this regard? (of the previous situations raised) have been: [sic]

“Me [nos ]march [-mos] as far as possible from the conflict and its participants.

I would try to put all possible resistance.

I would try to hide it in some way [To my loved one].

In the event that I was forced to prevent it, I think I would locate it, And I with him because I would feel guilty of not having been able to educate him in the values of his own life and others.

I would listen to their arguments to try to understand their opinion and be able to refute and offer other arguments

Insumision and armed confrontation if necessary.

Dialogue and communication between us is the only possible way to find a solution that pleases people who are in a conflict situation.

If you believe in life, Don't kill or want them to kill for you.

I would not participate and respect the final decision of others.

I already try to act by example on a day -to -day basis. He would act as a mother when he sees her young in the animal world threatened.

I would go to assemblies and mobilizations to create something in common ».

To the question: What reasons do you think they can justify going to kill [And to die, Of course] working people tos that you do not know and you have nothing personally against him, On behalf of "Our State, The homeland, “The honor of ", Our powerful? The answers have been mostly: “None reason You can justify it”. Some minority contributions: “Of our powerful nothing, none” o “None only self -defense”.

The assessment dThe Spanish constitutional and legal system in relation to the restriction of fundamental rights and freedoms in situations of alarm states, Exception, Place (Guerra) and imposition of military jurisdiction Among the participants It is very negative by militaristic, cynical "in the name of alleged freedoms", unfair, It has a drafted prepared so that it can be used at the convenience of other powers and pressures, It is the confirmation of the Triunfo of the State over the people, militarist and "dictatorial" by authoritarian. UNa trampa antidemocrática.

Other outstanding contributions: [sic]

«The truth is a situation in which I would not know very well what to do.

The penalty is that the big and some small powers are governed by bad people who have the people under the law of fear.

The silenced victims of wars: Women and girls violated by “peace armies”.

If we agree that the states increasingly invest in military affairs, uploading the percentage every year to justify their possible wars.

We all deserve to be respected equally and not discriminate against people for their differences, cultural, of race, sex, etc.

True individual freedom as beings unfailingly goes through social responsibility. Therefore, Social freedom.

That the working class is not prepared to face any fight. That social democracy has done much damage and that capitalism is the winner (and his bourgeois classes). That hopefully one day we can, sooner rather than later, say this has changed.

I would like my country to declare peace to all countries ».

 

Conclusions:

The contributions received have an important social sensitivity bias in the face of world injustices, beyond the premises. Also a great class empathy with otherness.

It is significant that no one has dared or valued to give the word to the minors, shortly citizens in fullness. For protection against cruelty? For self -censorship?

People out of military age, with greater vital trajectory, They express greater pessimism in the face of the feasibility of reversing the drama of the planetary wars by the popular classes. Also a greater visceral opposition and active to the abuses from the powers than those with ages between the 18 and the 45 years, those directly affected by potential military cams.

Very positively surprises the superlative degree of consciousness against any conflict that causes deaths, Wherever it may be the planet. Also the detection of the main guilty and beneficiaries of them: Great entrepreneurs and the political class in Tandem.

Being the sample of such a accentuated social sensitivity bias, It is surprising that approximately half of the participants did not know the Spanish legislation related to the military state.

A self -criticism is also collected to the atony of the majority of the population of Western societies, either for having "immunized" of the "distant" wars or by the widespread indifference of the population… Day to day priorities? Individualism, Narcissism, Hedonism, Adanism?

The passive opposition in exile is the most followed option for both those potentially affected by cams and their close family potentials. To a lesser extent, conscientious objection or direct refusal appear.

All the responses provided are very hard before Spanish legislation in relation to the severe restriction of the rights of fundamental freedoms of citizenship in alleged alarm states, Exception. The arguments already appear in the analysis section. The issue continues to be reverted? From classic electoral channels? From tangential alternatives with emancipatory values, of mass? From the sum of more or less confederate autonomous emancipatory alternatives? THE MILLION QUESTION.

The most recurrent collective action proposals to press and deter the respective state governments to collaborate militarily in any war allende are the classics currently practiced: Organization, Dissemination in the day -to -day life of antimilitarist ideas to raise awareness of the majority of the population, demonstrations, strikes and the important role of the school as a sensitizing agent of the consciences of young people.

In much smaller proportion, boycott appears in companies (and companies), or the Escrache To entrepreneurs, politicians, repressive bodies and their families. Proposals that are not new either.

New times (for the deadly effectiveness of weapons). Same resistance alternatives.

One of the main objectives of this study was to collect new proposals for action to disseminate and develop them. The answer to the million million will continue pending.

BUT, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, We will continue to resist.

And the final allegation to hope, of an anonymous participant at work:

“I would like my country to declarea Peace to all countries ".

 

                     The Mollet del Vallès working group. 11 July 2025